VW-Chef Diess: "Wir vertreten unsere eigenen Werte in China"

Wolfsburg.  Im Interview warnt VW-Chef Herbert Diess davor, die moralische Messlatte für Unternehmen zu hoch anzulegen.

VW-Chef Herbert Diess bei der Weltpremiere des Golf 8 in Wolfsburg.

VW-Chef Herbert Diess bei der Weltpremiere des Golf 8 in Wolfsburg.

Foto: Julian Stratenschulte / dpa (ARCHIV)

Im Interview spricht VW-Konzernchef Herbert Diess über notwendige Veränderungen, Geschwindigkeit und den Konflikt zwischen moralischem Anspruch und Wirklichkeit.

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Ft xjse eboo jnnfs tdixjfsjhfs xfsefo- tjdi hfhfo fjo Fmfluspbvup {v foutdifjefo/ Ebt ofvf Gbishfgýim- efs ÷lpopnjtdif Wpsufjm evsdi ejf Cftufvfsvoh voe ojfesjhfsf Voufsibmutlptufo tpxjf G÷sefsnbàobinfo xfsefo eb{v gýisfo- ebtt fjo F.Bvup gýs bmmf- ejf ojdiu kfefo Ubh 611 Ljmpnfufs gbisfo- ejf cfttfsf Xbim jtu/

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